Mapping Gender
by Anders Duckworth in collaboration with Kat Anders
This is a transcript of all the text in Kat Austen’s sound composition for Anders Duckworth’s Mapping Gender. The text is taken from interviews with other nonbinary people. that Anders carried out between 2020 and 2022.
The 15 interviewees were mostly gathered from a paid call-out and were selected to represent a diverse range of experience. They have all given their consent to appear in Mapping Gender.
Borders are important when they’re a matter of autonomy and integrity
but are oppressive when imposed from above
With ecological processes,
within land and among landscapes,
its quite hard to establish a border
Embodied use of space
and embodied production of territories
and production of borders
How Queer people move through the world
You can tell just from how people move their bodies in the space
which spaces belong to who
With ecological processes,
within land and among landscapes,
its quite hard to establish a border
Where’s the border of a forest? …Maybe that border is not that clear
Embodied production of territories
They are definitely artificial. If a forest ends then maybe it’ll be gradual from a forest to a shrubland to another type of ecosystem
Embodied production of territories
The character of the flaneur who like, is a sort of smartly dressed man who walks around the streets at leisure, historically those are the people who have been afforded the privilege to walk at leisure through the city
I’m going to call her La Chevalier
How queer people move through the world
I’m going to call her La Chevalier
Historically those are the people who have been
afforded the privilege to walk at leisure through the city
Borders are important when they’re a matter of autonomy
and integrity but are oppressive when imposed from above
Ecological processes, they don’t know these borders,
Let’s make the line here, this is yours, this is mine
Let’s make the line here, this is yours, this is mine.
Let’s make the line here.
Borders and boundaries are important, if they’re your own and you’re setting them for yourself as an act of self determination but borders and boundaries are highly oppressive if they’re being imposed by the government or being imposed internationally as a way of limiting mobility and limiting self expression.
Limiting mobility and limiting self expression
The character of the flaneur, who like, in 19th century France, would be a smartly dressed man who walks around the streets at leisure, historically those are the people who have been afforded the privilege to walk at leisure through the city
That’s called fragmentation
A city’s actually such a controlled thing, such a controlled environment,
we can only walk where they’re telling us to.
Limiting mobility and limiting self expression
In the natural state,
hypothetically,
this would never exist,
to have these square borders,
and you see them on the map and its rectangles,
squares of,
I don’t know,
maybe they have a crop or a piece of eucalyptus production
you really see the squares and rectangles
And like all the parks that are fenced off
Squares and rectangles
This should be public space and yet, it’s not.
Oh it looks pretty from the outside but actually,
it’s private
Limiting mobility and limiting self expression
Squares and rectangles
Limiting mobility and limiting self expression
Squares and rectangles
She commissioned the inscription on this sword and it said,
in French,
‘given by La Chevalière d’Eon’
Such a controlled environment
Squares and rectangles. Maybe that border is not that clear
Female self identification
literally inscribed on this 18th century metal.
Female identity etched on the blade
The solution to border wars is pure borders
The sense of wrongness,
of not fitting, of not belonging,
of being different
Squares and rectangles.
I never really felt comfortable in my gender
I don’t play with gender, I just don’t have any, and I find it very very baffling
How queer people are defined or, like, understand themselves through their surroundings
Growing up,
it wasn’t always like,
the easiest thing in the world,
and there wasn’t really anyone
in society
representing people like us
I have felt uncomfortable in, certainly I have felt uncomfortable in like, …women’s spaces and women’s activities and girls activities since I was born, pretty much
I never really felt comfortable in my gender
Vocal gender markers are around dominance and aggression
I missed that memo altogether,
nobody told me this and
I haven’t experienced this
I never really felt comfortable in my gender but I didn’t feel that I was like,
trans enough or
non binary enough.
I never really felt comfortable in my gender.
Comfortable in my gender
But I just thought of myself as a gender failure
I never really felt comfortable in my gender
Constantly worrying about the choreography of the body
An empress who was very well known for holding what were known as ‘metamorphosis balls’
One or the other of those two are the only acceptable choices
Challenging the idea of what a non binary person is perceived to look like
I have lots and lots of senses of self and gender just doesn’t
What a non binary person
is perceived to look like
Because so many ways that we use our body are gendered, just in general, socially, so many ways we use our bodies are gendered, if you take gender away then there’s this sense of ‘well what am I supposed to do with my body now? ” Everything from, ‘well where am I supposed to go to the bathroom’ to ‘how am I supposed to sit, where am I supposed to put my arms?’
Borders are important when they’re a matter of autonomy and integrity
but are oppressive when imposed from above
Someone can live in multiple places
and feel at home in multiple places
Someone can live in multiple places
and feel at home in multiple places
Borders are important when they’re a matter of autonomy and integrity
(laughing) yeah
Someone can live in multiple places
and feel at home in multiple places
(laughing) yeah
(laughing) yeah
There’s a lot to celebrate and be joyous about
We’re all pansexual, non binary beings,
if you think about it honestly
At home in my body
We’re all pansexual, non binary beings, if you think about it honestly
I tend to think of gender as being highly multi dimensional
I was just at home in my body and that’s,
I think,
like the main
thing that being agender
has given me
Purple skies and like, beautiful like clean oceans
Space where there’s like a nebula,
all of the weird clouds
and like stars coming out
Letting myself get lost and letting myself wander and go towards things I like
I have always enjoyed performing,
like, hyperfemininity and hypermasculinity like with my drag and generally I love putting on like a wig and like a gown and a cigarette holder and like being super hyperfeminine because, like, I guess like then it’s my choice and I’m telling people, like, this is the character I’m playing rather than them making assumptions about who I am and about my gender and things like that
Then it’s my choice and I’m telling people, like,
this is the character I’m playing rather than them making assumptions about who I am and about my gender and things like that
At home, in my body
Then it’s my choice
At home in my body
In the natural state, this would never exist, to have these square borders.
Where’s the border of a forest?
I love the idea of like the foreshore, and the space between high tide and low tide. Striations on the rocks of where the tide has been and gone
The space between high tide and low tide
The space between high tide and low tide
It’s like nowhere near anything we know,
like there’s no cities or villages or anything nearby and it’s its own little world and no one’s come across it before and it’s just like, blue skies all the time and happy and um…
In like a safe space,
and my own space
it’s like a serenity
and kind of just like a peace,
not feeling pulled one way
or the other,
just kind of floating
Striations on the rocks
In like a safe space,
and my own space
it’s like a serenity and kind
of just like a peace,
not feeling pulled one way
or the other,
just kind of floating
I do think of gender as being highly multi dimensional
Imagining that place
Like a safe space
and my own space and
like a serenity,
kind of just like a peace,
not feeling pulled one way
or the other,
just kind of floating
It’s like nowhere near anything we know,
like there’s no cities or villages or
anything nearby and it’s its own little world
and it’s like,
blue skies all the time and happy and um…
Purple skies and like beautiful like clean oceans
Space where there’s a nebula, all of the like weird clouds and stars coming out
I’m definitely learning to feel more at home within my own body
Feel more at home
within my own body
and it’s just like blue skies all the time
and happy and um,
yeah, free.